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Offline eternalflame

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(GH1) Training skills for money
« on: March 07, 2012, 01:12:40 am »
I have recently come to great wealth in GH1. But unfortunately, I cannot think of anything else to buy besides skill training. However, there is a small problem I have with how it is poorly documented in game.

Will the skill xp carry over when a skill levels up? As in, could I take a level 1 skill, dump 5M cash on it and end up with a high level skill? Or would I end up with a level 2 skill?

If the skill xp does not carry over, is there a formula to calculate how much the next level costs for any given skill level? My preliminary search of the source code did not bear fruit. And if anyone has compiled a table of the results that you know of, could you please point me into that direction?

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Re: (GH1) Training skills for money
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2012, 07:47:27 am »
From the wiki:

Training skills for cash
You need a skill but don't have the XP to buy it? No problem, but it'll cost you something else.
Both Hwang-Sa Temple and Wujung University have NPCs who will train your character's skills in exchange for cash. Your current faction will also provide trainers for various faction-related abilities. No trainer teaches all the skills, so you may need to hunt around a bit to find the right teacher.
The basic rate for skills training is 1XP in a skill for every $100 spent on training. This is modified by your character's relationship with their teacher, so it's worth spending some time becoming friendly with a teacher in the hope of getting some free bonus XP. Your character's Knowledge score also plays a part. A knowledgeable character will get some free bonus XP, while a character with a low knowledge stat will probably be penalised.


Yes, it does carry over, since you're just gaining skill XP. I'm not sure to what degree a good relationship and KN affect that rate, however.

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Re: (GH1) Training skills for money
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2012, 08:01:13 am »
The Wiki does not actually specify what happens to excess skill xp. If it gets reset to 0, or if only the required is subtracted.

I guess I will save scum to find out.

edit: As it turns out, skill xp does not carry over. I dumped 6.25M cash on level 2 cybertech skill. My knowledge is 24 and I had maximum possible reaction for the professor. End result? Level 3 cybertech skill. Whereas paying her 50k 4 times netted me level 6 in cybertech.

So then obviously it has to be done 1 level at a time. Now, all I need is the formula...
« Last Edit: March 07, 2012, 08:12:42 am by eternalflame »

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Re: (GH1) Training skills for money
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2012, 05:13:58 am »
Back when I was compulsively playing GH1, I found skill trainers immensely useful. That said, I think the system is poorly designed from a game-balance/gameplay perspective.

I am not sure whether it is the exact formula, but rule of thumb I worked with was: [dollars] = [XP required to level skill] times [one hundred]. You just 'buy' skill XP, which is otherwise acquirable by actually using that skill (although that quickly becomes intractable as you go past level 6 for most skills). The other, usual, way of leveling up ofc is to spend character XP on a skill.

So generally I estimated the amount of skill XP I needed, based on the current skill level, then pay for about half or quarter that amount several times (based on simple formula above). This is generally also useful since you lose control of your character for quite a while of game time if you are training high-level skills, and your PC may go hungry in the process and may need to take a break before training further.

edit: As it turns out, skill xp does not carry over. I dumped 6.25M cash on level 2 cybertech skill. My knowledge is 24 and I had maximum possible reaction for the professor. End result? Level 3 cybertech skill. Whereas paying her 50k 4 times netted me level 6 in cybertech.

That is sad. I honestly thought skill XP would carry over, inferring from a few other things in how GH1 works. But hey, by the time I can truly afford trainers, I usually don't mind inefficiently burning tons of cash to get muh skillz.

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Re: (GH1) Training skills for money
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2012, 03:04:52 am »
It does carry over, but due to a bug in GH1 a single allotment of SkillXP can only give you one advance. Try spending the minimum on skill training and you'll go up again, and again and again until you reach the proper level.