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Offline Francisco Munoz

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« on: April 22, 2009, 02:25:23 PM »
In my lunchbreak today I tried to sketch some of the unique items of the game.

Unique look at the exorg energy stuff... Kirby Dots & Crackle!

I also draw a couple of pistol-swords but I'm not happy with them, I after finishing I found that I really wanted something like the Ulisses 31's one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuNRkXM0Teg).

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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2009, 03:09:15 AM »
I kinda like the pistol-sword though...

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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2009, 08:20:06 AM »
The weight and balance issues due to the blade would incur some serious pernalties to accuracy, not to mention the danger of a misfire from blood or organic tissue entering the barrel.

It would be much more practical to have an energy melee/blaster combo, but that might be a little too overpowered.

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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2009, 08:49:27 AM »
Rocket/gyrojet pistols like the one to be depicted are more resistant to those jam problems...check http://www.deathwind.com/review_5.htm

 And in a sense the game make them more vulnerable... is the sword is used to parry or attacks enemies with energy weapon it will be damaged and eventually destroyed, rendering the pistol unusable. And you can always say that is an unique weapon because it was too hard/expensive to add an autocleaning barrel for mass production. :-)

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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2009, 12:23:35 PM »
Quoting: Francisco Munoz
Rocket/gyrojet pistols like the one to be depicted are more resistant to those jam problems...check http://www.deathwind.com/review_5.htm

They still jam, they just won't explode. And they're useless at ranges of less than 10 meters(like say, inside a spaceship, tunnel, hallway, or small to medium sized rooms).

Quoting: Francisco Munoz
And in a sense the game make them more vulnerable... is the sword is used to parry or attacks enemies with energy weapon it will be damaged and eventually destroyed, rendering the pistol unusable.

This is, in addition to the weight and balance issues, yet another argument against designing a pistol-sword with a physical blade as opposed to an energy based one.

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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2009, 02:28:27 PM »
Hey... I just tried to draw the one you could get from some quest in the game :-) no design beyond the visual one

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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2009, 03:55:00 AM »
But that more or less *is* how they used to make them.
Examples.
They were also quite common in eastern europe.

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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2009, 06:48:38 AM »
I've always been partial to the gravity saber from numerous Leiji Matsumoto shows:

http://www.collectiondx.com/node/2975
http://toyhaven.blogspot.com/2009/03/medicom-capta in-harlock-version-20.html

As long as it doesn't break this rule, no worries:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfC ool

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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2009, 10:18:19 AM »
Quoting: Francisco Munoz
Hey... I just tried to draw the one you could get from some quest in the game :-) no design beyond the visual one

I didn't mean to nitpick too much. The pistol-sword is a cool idea. It's like the sci-fi equivalent of the magic sword that shoots fireballs. I thought the drawings were cool, but then the voice in the back of my head says "that couldn't work because..."

I really should just let stuff slide. I like to watch anime too, but I'm constantly plagued by my mind critiquing EVERYTHING trying to figure out/theorise how it works... and then realising that it does not work, makes no sense, or is inconsistent with other established elements of the plot/mechanics of the show, etc.

I need to relax and not over analyse everything. Pistol-swords are cool. Now where are the SMG-swords? ;-)

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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2009, 02:09:17 AM »
I didn't mean to nitpick too much. The pistol-sword is a cool idea. It's like the sci-fi equivalent of the magic sword that shoots fireballs. I thought the drawings were cool, but then the voice in the back of my head says "that couldn't work because..."

Read my post above...
There's literally *dozens* of surviving examples dating back to the 16th-19th centuries.
There's also a pistol-mace, pistol-axe, pistol-dagger, pistol-halberd, pistol-hammer, pistol-spear...
Heck, even a pistol-crossbow (yeah, a crossbow with a pistol built-in) and pistol-knife, pistol-fork, and pistol-spoon as well as a pistol-book.
And best of all: IAmNotMakingThisUp.

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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2009, 12:47:53 PM »
Quoting: Onisuzume
Read my post above...

I did skim through the linked article, and most of the weapons, while cool in concept, are not especially practical. They could be more accurately described as expensive, custom-made status symbols/novelty items, than as effective, combat-tested weaponry.

To quote Wikipedia:
Pistol swords were not widely used and became uncommon relatively quickly, due to their expense and because instead of getting two weapons in one, one got a heavy pistol and a heavy, off-balance sword, as shown by the poor performance of the Elgin pistol.

Of course, we are following the Rule of Cool, so I'm willing to ignore the impracticalities of the aforementioned weapons if we get to see them in-game. :-)